answered 2015-01-06 12:19:12 -0800

dfarrell07
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ODL Helium and Lithium use Karaf to allow you to "roll your own OpenDaylight". You can load the AD-SAL or MD-SAL via Karaf.

Note that just before the holiday, the TSC started a discussion about deprecating the AD-SAL, as no one really owns or maintains it at the moment (most projects have moved to MD-SAL).

19:54:47 <colindixon> #topic supporting the AD-SAL
19:55:07 <colindixon> #info rgowrishankar points out that we’re having lots of problems with supporting the AD-SAL in Helium
19:55:17 <colindixon> #info this seems to be causing a lot of confusion among ODL users
19:55:36 <dfarrell07> +1 to user confusion (as a major contributor to ask.odl)
19:56:39 <colindixon> #info the question is (i) can we deprecate the AD-SAL and compatibility layer, (ii) if not who will maintain it, (iii) how do we convey the level of support (or lack thereof) to users
19:57:32 <kwatsen> does the mix of AD-SAL and MD-SAL conflict with the singularity policy?
19:58:08 <colindixon> kwatsen: not until the project is core, and it’s the same project
19:58:21 <colindixon> which means I have no idea how singularity would apply
19:58:32 <colindixon> #info colindixon asks edwarnicke if the AD-SAL is going to be deprecated in Lithium
19:59:18 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke responds saying nobody is maintaining the AD-SAL and hasn’t been for a while, he fixed bugs at the end of Helium, but doesn’t want to keep doing things
19:59:28 <colindixon> #info edwarnicke says personally he would like to deprecate
19:59:34 <rovarga> unless someone steps up by ... M2 I guess, we need to move to deprecate it, I think
20:00:03 <phrobb> As per our process we would deprecate in Lithium, and remove the APIs in Beryllium, correct?
20:00:17 <dfarrell07> colindixon: I have a #action for that if you want
20:00:17 <dlenrow> Do we have a formal deprication process? I'm pretty sure it's not "ask Ed"
20:00:30 <colindixon> dlenrow: we do, it’s up to the project
20:00:37 <colindixon> deprecated in one release and can be removed in the next
20:00:39 <rovarga> dlenrow: the deprecation process is up to the project's committers
20:00:55 <dlenrow> That seems insane for dependents in community
20:01:09 <rovarga> dlenrow: in this particular case it seems the currently-active committers are not willing to maintain the feature going forward
20:01:10 <dlenrow> unilateral deprication evil wherever you put it
20:01:11 <dfarrell07> #action rgowrishankar, edwarnicke will reach out to people using AD-SAL. They should either come up with a way to maintain it or move to MD-SAL.